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HR negotiations
introduction of the 3rd HR bill, amendments, talks, controversy etc
| Question | Answer |
|---|---|
| when was the 3rd HR bill introduced | 11th april 1912 |
| what did the 1911 parliament bill mean for the 3rd HR bill | it would be passed by late 1914 |
| policies of the 3rd HR bill (4) | -dublin based devolved government -HR parliament only controls irish affairs -no power over taxation -irish legislation can be vetoed by british government |
| what did churchill and lloyd george do in february 1912 | informally suggest county option |
| did asquith accept or reject the feb 1912 county option | reject |
| what did agar-robartes do in june 1912 | suggest 4 ulster counties Antrim, Down, Derry and Armagh be excluded from HR |
| did asqutih accept of reject agar robartes amendment | reject |
| what did carson do in january 1913 | suggest amendment to exclude all 9 counties of ulster from HR |
| did asquith accept or reject carsons january 1913 amendment | reject |
| what did carson aim to do through ulster opposition | end HR for all Ireland |
| did carson relent on his aim to end HR for all ireland when he suggested his jan 1913 amendment | no |
| what did carson intend to do through his jan 1913 amendment | draw attention to ulster opposition |
| what did carson do in september 1913 (2) | relent on ending HR for all of ireland + privately admit to appeal of 6 county exclusion |
| what happened RE liberals in september 1913 | liberal peer in the house of lords lord loreburn writes letter to times newspaper calling for ulster provision |
| why did asquith reject idea of ulster exclusion at first | irish majority supported HR |
| statistics supporting irish support for HR 1/2 | 4/5 irish MPs in parliament support HR |
| statistics supporting irish support for HR 2/2 | unionist MPs in ulster outnumber nationalist 17vs16 |
| what had the liberals, conservatives and unionists realised by september 1913 | compromise was inevitable |
| who met for secret talks in september 1913 | churchill and bonar law |
| who met for secret talks in autumn 1913 | asquith and bonar law |
| who met for secret talks between december 1913 and january 1914 | asquith and carson |
| what did asquith offer carson during their 1913-14 secret talks | home rule within home rule |
| did carson reject or accept home rule within home rule | reject |
| what does carson demand from asquith during their 1913-14 secret talks | at least 6 counties permanently excluded from HR |
| did asqith accept or reject carsons demand that at least 6 counties permanently excluded from HR in 1913-14 | reject |
| when does asquith tell redmond that ulster exclusion is inevitable | feb 1914 |
| did redmond anticipate the need for ulster exclusion | no |
| who misinformed redmond RE ulster opposition (2) | belfast MP Devlin and IPP deputy Dillon |
| what did redmond call ulster exclusion | an abomination and a blasphemy |
| what does redmond do on march 6th 1914 | accept ulster exclusion as price of peace |
| what terms of ulster exclusion does redmond agree to in march 1914 | counties can vote to opt out of HR for 6 years |
| what does carson do march 9th 1914 | reject ulster exclusion that redmond accepted |
| what does carson call the march 1914 ulster exclusion amendment | a sentence of death followed with a stay of execution for 6 years |
| was the march 1914 amendment attached to the HR bill despite carson's rejection | yes |