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Heart part 2 murmurs
Advanced Physical Assessment
| Question | Answer |
|---|---|
| Systole | MT close (S1) and then AP open |
| Diastole | AP close (S2) and then MT open |
| Aortic stenosis happens when | systole b/c you use the aortic valve during systole- no blood flow during diastole |
| Which one of the valves closes first? | aortic closes 1st/last to open then pulmonic (mitral 1st to close last to open/t) |
| Mitral and tricuspid fill the ventricles so they are | diastolic |
| Aortic and pulmonic move blood during | systole |
| Regurgitation with mitral valve happens when | systole because this is when it’s supposed to be closed |
| Closure of the valve is | noisy and creates the heart sound- systole |
| systolic murmurs are | aortic stenosis or mitral valve (mr ass) |
| Isovolumetric phase | when all the valves are stopped/red |
| During inhalation | more blood on rt side of the heart |
| During exhalation | more blood on the left side of the heart |
| The more you fill the heart with blood | sounds and murmurs get louder |
| Diastole | AP close/ MT open- mitral valve narrow- diastolic murmur or aortic regurgitation because it’s supposed to be closed= diastole |
| S1 is | systole MT close |
| S2 is the start of | diastole AP close- louder at the base |
| S3 is only heard in | healthy children and prego any others = HF |
| Those with heart failure who have s3 | increase Lasix, pulmonary congestion |
| All innocent murmurs are | systolic |
| Aortic murmurs | can be heard all over the place- not just the base (2/3rd ICS) – apex is the 5th ICS |
| Base means | 2nd and 3rd ICS- aortic murmurs can be heard there but all over the chest |
| What is important with murmurs | when*and where |
| S1 is heard the loudest at | the apex s2 is better at the base |
| S1 you can hear it sometimes | higher than normal- mild mitral stenosis- cannot even hear the murmur |
| Splitting S2 | the right side gets filled with inspiration- the pulmonic will have more work to do and closes late because there’s too much pressure- heard on inspiration- longer and louder |
| Test ?- Wide split- abnormalities of S2 | any condition that increases the pressure or volume on the right side of the heart- pulmonary htn- pulmonic condition happens later and aortic happens earlier so it widens the split. |
| Test ?- fixed splitting of s2 | A fixed split S2 always indicates an atrial septal defect (ASD). A fixed split S2 occurs when there is always a delay in the closure of the pulmonic valve |
| Higher pressure | higher sound |
| Pulmonary htn | abnormal S2 1) 2nd heart sound is loud 2) 2nd heart sound is widely split because the pulmonic component occurs late- loud P2- valve closes late- higher pressure |
| S3 and S4 diastolic heart sounds | heard with the bell- also mitral stenosis murmur- low pitched sounds |
| S3- | low pitched, use your bell, best heard at the apex, in left lateral- one of 2 conditions to turn pt to the left |
| In those over 40 years, S3 is usually pathologic and indicative of | LV failure- S3 has very high specificity but low sensitivity for LV failure- give lasix |
| S3 has high_____ but low_________ | specificity, sensitivity you can say pt has chf if s3 is present, but if not present, you cannot exclude chf |
| Gallop3 | word for s3 – HF- ORDER LASIX |
| In tachycardia | diastole gets shortened- |
| Test question- left ventricular gallop S3 | left sided so it’s softer during inspiration because we put more blood on the right side- ask pt to exhale to hear better |
| Aortic ejection click | clicks during systole because that’s when it opens and it’s stiff- mitral stenosis is early diastole because that’s when it opens |
| MVP click/mitral valve prolapse | leaflets loose when there’s less blood in the heart- blood goes back the other way- the jacket is big when you lose wt- mid systole (closes)- high pitch |
| Opening snap | Mitral stenosis- early diastole because it’s still- click |
| An S1 or S2 caused by a mechanical valve | (following MVR or AVR respectively), will acoustically sound similar to a click- An absent mechanical valve click =valve dysfunction |
| What’s the difference between murmur and bruit? | nothing- it’s outside the heart |
| Abnormal viscosity | anemia- decreased blood viscosity- Increased velocity of blood flow through normal structures- usually systolic |
| Abnormal velocity | hyperdynamic states- sepsis, hyperthyroid- Increased velocity of blood flow through normal structures |
| Abnormal valve | valvular stenosis- decreased diameter of a valve- Decreased diameter of a valve, or vessel- mitral you will hear the murmur during diastole (filling→still going this direction), aortic you will hear during systole as iit’s leaving ventricle |
| Abnormal direction | regurgitation-Flow through an abnormal orifice-valvular regurgitation, VSD left to right shunt- not cyanotic- , PDA patent ductus arteriosus (this happens during systole- valves don’t close- MR) |
| VSD/ventricular septal defect is | a hole between the left ventricles- blood goes left (red blood) to right (blue blood)- get cyanotic when the blue gets to the left- too late for the pt→ NOT CYANOTIC |
| Timing | systolic or diastolic- all innocent murmurs are systole- |
| Diastolic examples | Aortic (most common)/ Pulmonic regurgitation, Mitral/ Tricuspid stenosis (goes forward during diastole) |
| Systolic examples | Flow/innocent murmurs (anemia, hyperdynamic states), Aortic/ Pulmonic stenosis, Mitral/ Tricuspid regurgitation, Ventricular Septal Defect/VSP, Hypertrophic Obstructive Cardiomyopathy, HOCM |
| Combined murmur example | PDA |
| What if you have a valve that is so stenosed that it doesn’t close tightly | aortic regurgitation (diastolic murmur) and stenosis (systolic murmur)- sounds continuous but it’s 2 murmurs in the cycle |
| PDA | continuous murmur- machine-like |
| AS murmur radiate to the | carotid arteries→ radiation |
| MR murmur radiates to the | axilla→ radiation |
| Test question- Decrescendo | usually diastolic murmurs as AR & mild MS- loud S1, opening snap- use bell- turn to the side- prego |
| Crescendo-Decrescendo | usually systolic murmurs as AS |
| Uniform | (aka: “holosystolic”when it occurs in systole): usually the systolic murmur of MR |
| Once you feel the intensity | 4/6- grade 4 |
| Grade 1- 6 | barely audible- experience needed, grade 6 is audible w/o stethoscope- grade 4- feel the thrill |
| MS quality | rumbling |
| MR quality | musical blowing |
| AR quality | blowing |
| AS quality | harsh |
| PDA quality | machine-like |
| More blood in the heart | louder murmur EXCEPTIONS are MVP & HOCM where more blood in the heart decreases murmurs, and less blood in the heart increases their murmurs |
| Atrial stenosis | harsh |
| How to put more blood in the heart/preload | squatting- raising the leg of the pt- except MVP mitral valve prolapse& HOCM |
| Hypertrophic obstructive cardiomyopathy (HOCM) | (decreased murmur intensity) systolic murmur like AS but more blood makes AS more loud but not this one (squatting, leg raise or supine) |
| Hand grip will put more blood in the heart for | MR, AR and VSD- amyl nitrate does the opposite |
| Squatting/Leg raise | increase venous return/preload- thus increase all murmurs except MVP&HOCM- Valsalva and standing do the opposite |
| Valsalva/Standing | decrease venous return/preload- thus decrease all murmurs except MVP&HOCM |
| A pt flailing/knodding his head about is a sign of | AR |
| Possible Test question- Hand grip | increases the resistance/afterload- for regurgitations-will make it louder- goes in an abnormal direction- mitral regurgitation if louder, otherwise aortic stenosis |
| You hear a systolic murmur over the apex- what are 2 conditions | MR ASS Mitral regurg and atrial stenosis- ask pt to squeeze his hand |
| Venous hum | innocent murmur- obliterate the jugular vein to silence – systolic- |
| Stills murmur | innocent murmur- systolic- put over- IJV- Mid systolic murmur |
| Abnormal S1- | mild MS- turn to the left- ask for an echo- LOUD S1 |
| Cardiac valve lesions | SOB- get echo |
| Abnormal S2 | loud in p HTN, massive PE, ASD (fixed split) |
| Abnormal s1 | a-fib |
| Diastole abnormal sounds | S3 and opening snap (mild MS or severe MS) |
| Abnormal systolic click | MVP, aortic ejection click |
| MVP and HOCP | the 2 where if you put more blood in the heart, the sounds are decreased |
| Mitral regurgitation caused by | htn, ischemia |
| Pericarditis | treat with nsaids- pr interval depression on ecg- ST segment elevation in the majority of leads |
| Marfan tall woman | loose connective tissue- decrescendo- blowing- AR- lean forward and make a fist |
| 75 y/o woman with dyspnea and exertional chest pain for several months w/continuous murmur heard well at the apex | combined AS and AR- heard all over the place |
| Tetralogy of Fallot | PS- central cyanosis- fingers, toes, tongue, squatting, parasternal heave, A cyanotic congenital heart defect with 4 abnormalities- Stenotic pulmonary valve-Ventricular septal defect- Overriding aortic valve-Hypertrophy of right ventricle |
| sharp stabbing chest pain is NOT | angina |
| sign for heart attack | levinne’s |
| Scratchy- Sharp, stabbing chest pain. in back, neck or left shoulder-worse w/coughing, swallowing, deep breathing, lying flat, or moving- relieved by sitting up and leaning forward- Difficulty breathing when lying down, a dry cough, anxiety, fatigue | pericarditis- give NSAIDS/ASA- all leads elevated ST and PR interval depression |
| Ventricular Septal Defect in child | systolic- recurrent respiratory infections- If left untreated, the Lt to Rt shunt turns into Rt to Lt one and the patient becomes cyanotic (Eisenmenger syndrome) |
| Vitals: BP 88/56, radial pulse rate 116, Apical pulse rate: HR counted at the apex 140- irregular rhythm | A-fib- synchronized cardioversion (only v-fib not synchronized) |
| young female with chest pain/palpitations | mitral valve prolapse |
| heart failure + aortic stenosis= | the end |
| Acute rheumatic fever | Aimless jerky movements Sydenham chorea- pharyngitis hx- carditis, polyarthritis, chorea, erythema marginatum- rash, sc nodules |
| Blood flow for infants | RA to the LA via the foramen ovale; the RV pumps blood through the DA (closes in 24-48h) into the aorta rather than into the lungs. The foramen ovale then later closes w/pressure |
| 80 y/o man with recurrent syncope | less blood to the brain- aortic stenosis- harsh- crescendo/decrescendo- blowing- listen to the carotid |
| CHF | weight increased, increased venous distention, Lungs bibasilar crackles, dyspnea, uses 3 pillows, edema, S3 (may or may not be there) |
| Cor pulmonale | rt heart failure and hypertrophy secondary to lung dz (COPD)- light headed, syncope |
| h/o chest pressure. Sub-sternal, radiates into left neck. Diaphoresis, nausea | Acute coronary syndrome- most common physical finding for MI is nothing story/EKG/ and enzymes |
| a-fib | synchronized cardioversion except for v-fib |
| 25 yo female with chest pain | mitral valve prolapse |
| Pt with aortic stenosis with chf is | done |
| HOCM s/s | SOB |
| Holosystolic murmur best heard | systolic murmur at the apex which radiates to the AXILLA- |
| SYSTOLIC MURMUR WHICH RADIATES TO THE AXILLA | MRASS MR, if he wants you to say aortic, he would chose the carotid |
| Early diastolic decrescendo, LLSB/apex, Corrigan pulse: bounding carotid pulse (water-hammer), DeMusset’s sign:head “bob” w/beat, Traube’s sign: pistol-shot pulse, Duoroziez’s sign: bruit when the femoral artery compressed, Quincke’s pulses-nails | AR |
| Hoarseness of voice (aka: Ortner’s syndrome): the dilated left atrium will press on the left recurrent laryngeal nerve resulting in hoarseness is seen in | Mitral stenosis |
| Young male athlete | HOCM |
| Aortic regurgitation | diastolic, Corrigan pulse, traube’s sign, quincke’s sign, … |
| Intermittent claudication | PAD- arteries in legs are clogged |